Yes, the techniques that I have seen for determining gender require very accurate birth time, to the degree that I was never ever to test them and get results that made using the technique worthwhile - meaning, it was impossible to find enough charts with exact enough time to verify if the techniques were reliable. Maybe Francesca has something that works with a larger time window. BUt, you are the gender that you are, it's not something we ever have to predict if we can see a person, well, unless they have gender changed.
homosexuality or confusion of gender is most commonly indicated by saturn aspecting the sun in a man's chart and saturn in or aspecting the 10th, or saturn in an angle. For a woman, its saturn aspecting the moon and saturn in or aspecting the 4th, or in an angle. In an angle is less less likely than in or aspecting the 10th or 4th. Other things may indicate it as well, but thats the most common. ALso, same gender planets in the 7th as the gender of the person can indicate attraction to the same gender.
It seems this system is completely incorrect. These are just initial charts with accurate times, but I wasn't able to proceed further with testing because only 1-2 individuals in the homosexual chart and others in the heterosexual chart had somewhat but not exact. Accurate birth time charts attached below.
Also, there’s something you mentioned earlier;
"I dont remember where i covered it.
ketu is also a eunuch, so look for first house factors to be influenced by eunuch's and 7th by opposite gender planets and eunuchs"
Also, you mentioned this now;
"Same gender planets in the 7th as the gender of the person can indicate attraction to the same gender."
None of this makes sense. Does it actually work or not?
1. Does it mean that homosexual people can have this combination, but a heterosexual person with the same combination isn't necessarily homosexual?
2. Should be verified by jaimini or some another with tropical or Sidereal chart?
3. Should one consider the Rasi aspect in Jaimini or the Drishti aspect in Parashara?
Homosexual Charts
Jul 12, 1996 15:58:00, Male, Colombo, Srilanka
May 22, 1999 6:02:43, Male, Sierra Vista, Arizoa, Usa
October 16, 1997 11:05:00, Male, Kolkata, India
December 28 1996 12:54 PM, Male, in Los Angeles, CA
July 22, 1991, 10:00am Sharp, Male, in Taipei, Taiwan
June 3, 1998 6:00:00, Male, Santiage Chile
July 06, 1997 10:59:00, Male, Saint Louis, USA
Straight Charts
October 12th, 2000 09:55, Mumbai, Maharashtra, India, Male
March 22nd, 1991 04:20, Bhurkunda, Jharkhand, India, Male
September 27th, 1989 05:50, Penedo, Alagoas, Brazil, Male
March 4th, 1997 18:14, Plainfield, NJ, USA, Female
March 4th, 2000 Unknown Time, Patna, Bihar, India, Male
October 10th, 1998 06:35, Jhansi, Uttar Pradesh, India, Female
September 4th, 2006 20:02, Chennai, India, Male
July 16th, 2003 17:30, Uttarakhand, India, Male
July 22nd, 2003 09:07, Lucknow, India, Male
March 19th, 1982 15:45, Haridwar, Uttarakhand, India, Female
September 20th, 2002 06:29, Parbhani, Maharashtra, India, Male
December 15th, 1965 02:00, Talegaon, India, Male
May 18th, 2001 07:34, New Delhi, India, Female
July 24th, 1992 17:40, Hyderabad, Telangana, India, Male
July 12th, 1988 16:43, Hyderabad, India, Male
July 19th, 1981 17:50, Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh, India, Male
July 19th, 2005 Unknown Time, Bikaner, Rajasthan, India, Male
Awaiting moderation?
The rules I gave are the basic principles that I have used when predicting homosexuality. Its not something I have put a lot of focus on. To do it fully requires a few things:
defining types of homosexuals. For instance, male homosexuals may be homosexual simply because they identify as female, or they may do so because they are very physically raw people and it's easier to have lots of sex with men than with women, or they may be most strongly attracted to men. Each of these will be shown by different astrological factors.
The factors I discussed relate most to men who are attracted to men more than woman.
The physically raw ones can be predicted with the help of yogas that indicate extreme physical need for sex, essentially, these are the have sex with animals yogas found in the old books.
The whole subject is a huge on as its very complex. It's not something I am interested in developing at this time as I am more into working on other things.
@ernst By aspecting the 4th you mean rasi aspects and not planetary aspects to the cusp, I guess?
The reason I´m asking is that I was just asked about this by a mother, re her daughter.
Staffan
@ernst Hi Ernst,
1. By saturn aspecting the sun/moon - you mean planetary aspect as well - Either conjunction or Saturn forms a 3rd, 7th, or 10th aspect to the Sun for men and Moon for women?
2. Is a person necessarily homosexual if they have this basic principles combination, or can they also be found in individuals who identify as completely heterosexual? - Meaning that a homosexual person might have this combination, but if a heterosexual person have it, it doesn't mean they are homosexual. I've noticed that some clients chart who are completely heterosexual (Not attracted to the same gender in any way) also exhibit this combination.
Ts
@ernst Thank you for your response, Ernst.
May I inquire, In planetary aspect are we only looking at the full aspects (3,7,10) of Saturn here for these basic principles?
Just making sure.