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Ernst Wilhelm
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Yes, escaping those belief systems is SO HARD. Srishti has been doing something called fast EFT and its really amazing to see her cut through some really deep beleif systems. SHe has two shamed planets, and she is cutting through them like a hot knife through butter with the Fast EFT.

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@ernst He might be open to EFT, I think he mentioned it once. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Gerat, thank you for sharing an intense example. One of the amazing things about ashamed planets is that in many people those planets can come off as near invisible, really diminished to sight planets and so its common to have NO IDEA of what the person has been through. OFten, the person themselves has no conscious memory themselves of what they have been through. 

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I started off studying astrology for figuring out what's going wrong, but last 2 years, i study it for fun and when i have time; so i may see things differently.
 
When i saw the chart; the cusps did not pop up to me at all; I was just seeing the Su with Ke.  I know we have studied the condition for shamed planet etc.;
 
but from what I have observed in my interactions as a normal person; a Ke/Su conjunction and a Sa/Me conjunction send a kind of shamed energy. I wonder, because he is already receptive, if you talk about Ke/Su conjunction lessons; he will be able to shift...
 
With regards to Me; I find what Ernst says as very, very true - never underestimate a starved mercury; and appreciate how much a good mercury helps!.
 
But I don't know if someone's Me can be helped by another person ? If they have a sense of shame or starvation to try something, wouldn't it be hard ?
 
For rigid stuff - my mother was born in the early 60's when almost everything was in Aq with Ke. So, she has Ju, Ma, Me, Sa shamed as per avastha definitions. She told that even sidereal astrologers didn't want to read her chart. She has Ve in Pi as a saving grace; and she's a teacher who really likes teaching. 
 
Once I told her  that she has an expectation of perfection in everything because she was beaten up every time she made any sort of mistake when she was a kid. And that perfection causes her to feel frustrated. It took its own time but now, I see huge positive changes in her. That is another reason I wonder if talking about Ke will help. Ra stuff he will be pulled to anyway.  
 
Also, if anyone can share what is good/positive Aquarius? 
I have Ra/Mo in Aq; so I keep getting people with Aq focus in my life.. haha
 
It depends what kind of Aq you are looking for... Sa in Aq or Ve in Aq ?
 
the most common ones I have come across is MT Sa in Aq. They all have this quality of ignoring sh*t. I don't know how they do that. I have Sa in Cp; I have the confidence to bear if things go wrong. These guys I see in my life don't think if they can bear burdens or not; they just ignore. 
 
Ve/Me in Aq. This is a very, very fun one. I think Me makes it fun because they talk about it. A girl with this will say  "you listen to me even when I blabber something. It feels so good. you are so simple. when you tell me your stories; they i did not understand half the things; but i still like to listen to you".
 
Basically Ve in Aq very quickly sees the good in a particular thing and ignores the minor negative parts. Put in Me there and they share it with you. 
 
 
 
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@scoobydoo You have a VERY similar chart to one of my daughters - also has Saturn in Capricorn and Rahu/Moon in Aquarius, meanwhile her sister (my other daughter) has the MT Saturn in AQ. They both have Leo lagna and a Libra Sun, if I consider how the two of them approach the AQ house - it is very different! My first thought is Ra/Mo is somewhat reckless and avoids what needs addressed in that area of life (guess that's the Ra jungle). And Sa/MT digs right in and does the work with more "conviction", more steady/thoughtful in her approach. Thank you.

Great insights regarding your Mother, good to hear she is untangling the pressure and forgiving her imperfections.

❤️'d your Ve/Me in AQ explanation!

 

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@ltmoon 

hahaha, Cap is my lagna. My sister has MT Sa AQ too... this is quite interesting definitely.

Yeah; I hit Ra dasha when I was 4. So, my focus was already taken to the 2nd house before I knew it. I just realized a lot later that's what had happened. Haha, I cant tell you how many times I have been called careless :D; especially in childhood 

Thank you!; Ve/Me in Aq is a true story btw 😉 .. 

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@scoobydoo Yep - she also went into Ra dasa at 4 yo. 

I would not say she let's things go easily either, DEFINITELY not as easily as her sister... 

In your case, I wonder if having Saturn in 1st enhances that?  I feel like the people I know with Saturn in Lagna, are slow to give forgiveness - BUT they also don't immediately cut people off either, they give them an opportunity to work it out. But when all else fails, can be a "your dead to me". Just what I've seen, maybe not you plus I think when people are spiritually oriented or working on themselves, it is helpful.

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@ltmoon .. wow! Ra dasha at 4! I had some help even though waning with Ra, it is vargotamma moon, and its in Aq in my D-9 with Ju. 

I don't know too about Sa in lagna, because I dont know anyone else with that. I will likely identify a lot more with your other daughter even though her Sa is Aq, because Sa in angle is causing Sasa yoga for us.

I have a friend who has Sasa yoga in 4th in Aq. Whenever we are hanging out in our friend group, we just know intuitively from what feeling the other side is coming from! she doesn't even believe in astrology

I find the yoga pretty strong in my case even though theory says Sa in lagna doesn't have dig bala. Esp the perseverance part. And its actually not very easy to hide from us, which can be disturbing to some people. When I am talking to a person, the mind processes two things - what are they saying ?, what are they really saying ?!

I think because we can understand where other person is coming from, its a little easier to give forgiveness as a sasa yoga person.   

In my first 30 years probably yes. Definitely slow to give forgiveness then, but I don't have that problem now. Maybe Me maturation kicked in last year. The forgiveness and praise is more permanent. So it will take time. I also can't give another person genuine praise unless I am convinced haha.

But I will reward them quite well when I am convinced that they deserve it. There is no holding back then!...   

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Posted by: @ernst

One of the amazing things about ashamed planets is that in many people those planets can come off as near invisible,

TRUE - most people have no idea how stressed this guy is, it's hidden!

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