Hello. Sorry that you are making such experiences. I can relate and its very difficult. I hope and pray that you will be better soon. I went through an intense mental health crisis beginning 2022 where I developed OCD which was based on intense fear and panic attacks. Its a long story. I worked on these issue(s) a lot with different methods. Fortunately by God's grace and all the help I got its much much better now. If you want we can exchange about that my number is +49 178 3562962. You can contact me via WhatsApp or Telegram. Kind regards.
@narottama Thank you dearly Narottama. It feels so comforting that I'm not the only one experiencing these intense feelings.
I'm so glad to hear that you're doing much better now. That time in 2022 must've been very troubling.
I appreciate your kindness and support. I'll keep your number in mind when I experience this again. I've been doing better since quitting those stimulants 4 days ago.
@curioussoul Sorry for the late reply and thank you for your message. I understand that it feels comforting to know you are not alone experiencing such intense feelings. I totaly can relate to that and yes, its good and needed to be understood and that we know we are not alone. Thank you that you are glad that I am doing better and yes 2022 was really intense. Thank you als for your kind words. I appreciate too and in regards to me being kind and supportive, you are welcome. I am also very happy that you are doing better since you stopped to take some stimulants, thats great. I hope, pray and wish that you feel at peace and OK. Yes, if you need some help or want to connect in the future feel free to do so if needed and wanted. Kind regards.
I have Rahu conjunct a DB Saturn, so I believe I speak out of experience.
To me not resist the force of anxiety has been the key.
Concretely lying down on the ground worked for me when it was as it worst.
To me anxiety is a bear. It seems terrifying but can actually be a really good friend. It doesn´t want to harm but to liberate us.
It can´t say it was easy, but i learned to recieve my anxiety as a friend. And I missed him when he left.
Staffan
@staffan Hey Staffan, thank you so much for sharing. Haha, you're one of God's toughest soldiers with that conjunction!
RE anxiety and it not wanting to harm but liberate us -> so good. That's something I need to remind myself over and over again until it sinks in. You're right, I believe no experience or feeling is to punish us or make us feel terrible just for the sake of it. It serves to liberate us. You're so right.
When I made it to my car, I started trying to surrender to the anxiety. That did slightly help. I'm still new with understanding it and working with it.
I'm in the beginning of Saturn Mahadasa and it's N in rasi but DB in D9 and D60. I haven't studied yet how that can ultimately affect me, perhaps something I'll later make a forum post about.
@curioussoul You know, when something is hard enough, it gets easy. When you don´t have a choice. It reminds quite a bit of a child´s birth I guess: only one way to go... 😀 The birth canal is squeezing you, alright, but it´s not as if life gives you many options. 🙂 So the only option left is trust.
Staffan
@staffan I'm going to write that one down -> "when something is hard enough, it gets easy." Maybe because life forces us to adapt to it and learn to work with it.
It's so interesting. When we're young we think life is full of so many opportunities and that we can have anything. Then in certain areas of life we find that it's not the case at all. There's delays, separations, and loss. Sometimes we have to push through and other times we have to ask if we truly wanted that thing at all. I've had many such cases in 2024.
The way you've worked with that conjunction is inspiring.
Another idea, unconventional and certainly take baby steps with this but, what about trying to give yourself a panic attack intentionally? Hear me out - maybe have a friend with you or someone you feel very safe with and tell them the plan ahead of time. Then do something that would normally trigger it, preferably on a weekend off when you have a free days to recover. Especially with the added fear of being around people, this seems like part of the fear you need to start metabolizing. Such as, crying in front of another person. After all, they will survive, won't they? Your friend can then take you home and you can rest. Like the story of the surgeon that could not stop sweating during surgery. Someone have him the advice to sweat as much during a surgery as possible. Afterwards, he never sweat during surgery again. It is your fear of making contact with this emotion and sensation in your body that is triggering it. If you can make small amounts of contact with it in a safe and controlled manner, for example, when you have time off with, fridge completely stocked with fully prepped meals ready to go, etc., then you can consciously contact the emotion and also give yourself time to recover. I'm the future, knowing how to navigate this emotion in a conscious way could only be a net positive for you, don't you think? It is the psychological theory of implosion. Like if you're deathly afraid of spiders, putting a spider on you on purpose to deal with your fear. Even people with severe allergies are actually treated nowadays by giving them extremely small amounts of what they are allergic to in order to build up their tolerance, such as peanuts. How does this help, you ask? If they accidentally make contact with peanuts, they won't die. Their body has built up some amount of tolerance. In a pinch or when you do not have the controlled environment anymore and again you experience a panic attack, you will have more experience navigating the situation. I've been in Rahu for many many years - welcome to the roller coaster!😂 I speak from experience with all of this! Another thing, I develop severe allergies and stimulant sensitivities when I entered Rahu. Yes, you have to cut back on caffeine, nicotine and alcohol. Also be careful with prescription drugs. This is what I recommend and what helped me.
All the best,
J
Looks to me a very potent idea of developing immunity against a toxin by ingesting just a very small amount of it! Years ago I watched a programme on discovery where a person living in a forest was deliberately taking a very minute amount of terrible snake poison and allowing his system to tolerate it and build immunity against it, then will increase the amount of toxin next time by little bit more and after many iterations by constantly increasing the toxin and bearing it he had built immunity against that poisonous snake bite which was a constant threat in that area.
There should have been some programme by experts to help people train their psychology and emotions in this manner. Very likely it might become successful!
@squiddaisy I like this approach, it's very exciting. You prepare the strategy, you gather the allies... , and then the adrenaline of the performance.
It seems quite a Martial strategy, and also pretty much weight to the faith of Jupiter.
Maybe the planets with high Ayana Bala can give a hint of which kind of approach may work for the individual. It's good to just consciously check it out.
@marianela I haven't studied much of the Shad Bala's yet. But I just checked my Ayana Bala and my Mercury has the highest points. Mars, Sun, and Venus are quite low, haha 😀
@squiddaisy This is a great idea -- overcoming the fear by putting oneself directly in it.
I don't have someone in my city who I can trust with this yet, but when I do, I'll definitely do it :). But I might try doing it alone!
Right now I'm doing better. I'm sort of resetting my system by going off of stimulants and doing cold plunges. Works great. But for the long-term, I've been journaling to see what the root issue is. It seems to do with self-trust and confidence issues.
Thank you so much for your advice. You are awesome!